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Offline گوادری Gwaduri

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« on: May 06, 2005, 03:21:53 PM »
salam all

I was checking different forums on the site.. suddenly i realised there is no post on the business section... :s

well folks i can understand............it is damn boring...and ...i guess supposed to be common sense....
all u need to be a succesfull businessman is... a lot of money... and a bit of luck..

becuase of a lot of money.. u can not lose all of them..... and if u r lucky u wont lose money.. hense u will be a successful businessman... easy mate...
Another.. explanation about ur luck could be u as a member of a so called business oriented family of caste....
If u a memon or bohri or ismaily.. then no need of studying business.. u r born businessman....
in gwadar.. if u r dashti.. then u r good businessman..  :mrgreen:

Just kidding mates...

business and commerce are the key areas .... business studies are as important as any other faculty like engineering.medicine or arts... plus they are very much in demand too...

so if u guys want to get  a good paying career oriented job..and if u r a passion of doing business then business studies are areas u should be in...

economics . accounting.. finance.. marketing.. management.. are complete sciences.. some may say they are arts.. no worries.. but these are the areas one specialise and even get a phd...

unfortunately.. at the initial levels...these subjects are considered to be left over.. or areas of last resort..

yaani agaan dege ich jaagaya admission narassit gora commerce wanain... :mrgreen:
ya archi studente waanaga kamzoorian bezaaan commerce wahneeth.. sajain buz commerce wanant.. mani wada  :mrgreen:

oooh baaz likith man.....

lets make this topic an interactive one.. if u guys have any problem or questions or suggestions about business studies.. v can share it here..

i need ur feedback......

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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2005, 05:22:48 PM »
Dear brother
 
Thank you so much for starting a thread in a wonderful style. :)
You are absolutely right ' Jo kuch nah kar saka voh commerce meiN aa gaya" it is a common trend of career planning in Pakistan. :)
 
Well business study and information about investment is today's need.
Actually purpose behind creation of the forum was only that we want to provide a platform to discuss about Business and Management.
 
There are lots of areas where people may interest to know like how to start a new business? What are business laws? Where to invest money? How to market a new product? What are business strategies, scope in business management? And so on.
 
 
Me personally don’t know anything about business and commerce, maa shaireeN mardumeN. computer-e-deyma demaagh haraab kanag zaaneN bale marketing tricks and tracks aa chey sarpad naheN :)
 
Few months back someone advised me to invest in share market but when I discussed to my colleagues about details they did not appreciated. But I am really interested to know what is the value of share market? How one can get advantages in investment of stock exchange and so.
 
So if you share something about stock exchange and share business I am sure so many people (they are dump in commerce) will get knowledge and interest in this regard
 
Once again thank you so much
 
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2005, 05:51:49 PM »
salam sis ...thanks for ur post...

well... ui asked a very good questions....it the most complex area of finance.. the valuation of stocks i mean shares..

li will try to use simple terms.....

stock market is a secondary market for share or stocks of the companies in the exchange.. like karachi stock exchange...
by seconday market i mean... market where general investors.. general public buy and sell shares which have been issued by the companies....
when a person buys a share of any company.. he will be share holder of the company.. tht means he is entitle to receive..a share in the profit of the company called dividends.. and his liability is limited..

this word of 'limited' u guys often see with the names of the company... it mean the liabilities are limited for shareholders.. which again means...  :)  in case of loss or bankruptcy of the company.... the loss of the shareholders is limited to the amount invested in the company.. meaning that   :mrgreen:  .. kasay shome looga nahit ke company kottitag biya paisa bedeye...

earlier i said shareholders recieve profit share from the company if it makes any profit and management decides to give any dividend..... tht means the investors to get share of profit is also dependent on the management decision of dividend...investors automatically will not get the dividends...
 :mrgreen:

there is another thing which attracts the investors to invest the share market called capital gains... which results from any positive change in the price of shares...

in simple terms.. if someone buys a share for 100 ruppees today and tomorow the price of tht particular share increases to 150 then he can sell the share and have the 50 dollar gain ...well this can also be a 50 ruppes loss in case the price goes down to 50 next day....

if dividend and capital gains are the two expected cashflows of investement in shares .. here we can develop a simple price model....

price of stock= cash flows( dividend+ expected future price)/ time value of money

sis is the basic formula for the calculating the share price ....
this simple model itsefl includes many factors which can be expanded to complex models... they r simpley mind bogglings.. i m really sick of them....

forget them.. lets talk abt the karachi stock market....

it is shallow market.. tht mean few ppl can influence it.... market expectations play a major role rather the supply and demand fundamentals and limited scrips are stocks contribute 90% of the activity in the market....like PSO,, shell major banks and nishat mills etc

if a small investor wanted to invest in the market.. i guess it is  long term investment... buy good shares and sleep over it ....
there is no qucik bucks.. if u do short term trading.. i guess 80% chances u will lose money....

in most of the advance countries... mutual funds.. cater the investment needs of the small investors.. they pool the small investors money and invest in stock markets.. since they are the expert of market and they can diversify their portflolio therefore tht chance of making good returns are higher for them....

we have two funds in pakistan....ICP and NIT .... well i m not sure abt their success but i guess NIT is good

baaz likith...

plz feel free to ask questions ..... and ur suggestiions too mates

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2005, 10:13:12 AM »
Dear brother Ahmad (Gwaduri)
Assalam-o-alaikum

Thank you so much for your detail explanation about the subject.  
Well this is too good for me “Kass loogaa nahe keh company kuTTetaa, zaraaN kash yaa wait d’obetageN zarr-e-saraa maatum bekaaN :)

It means in current circumstances of Karachi stock market I should not think to buy shares otherwise “metage beestiye paima rullag kapii “  

Once again thanks for everything. Soon I’ll be back to bother you with some other questions.  

Till that take good care of urself and mani nishaar(-o-gohaar )

Allah-e-mayaare  

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2005, 12:44:41 PM »
Assalam-o-Alaikum Dear Brother Ahmed,
I am a Student of 2nd year Now.I want to Be a bank Manager.So for this what should i have to study after Fsc.What is your opinion about BBA and BCom.


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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2005, 02:37:39 PM »
Dear Fahad

 In order to enter into banking sector.. you should have a background of finance and economics..although banks also hire IT experts but mainstream banking is basically finance and economics....

Yeah you are right... BBA is a specialised course than Bcom...however both can be converted into MBA at master level.. i will suggest BBA .. but be careful about the institution you enter into.. thts counts a lot  when u will come in the job market....there are institution with good reputation in the market and mostly they take the major share of the jobs.. atleast all good jobs..

So before joining a institution... thoroughly check its market reputations....

the best institutes are IBA, LUMS, Zbist, Humdard, CBM, Karachi Uni(MBA pro),...

If for any reason you cant get admission in BBA program.. thts not a big problem... in tht case u do ur Bcom.. but i would suggest to join a university rather than doing Bcom from a college......
U can also do ur MSc in economics....(my favorite degree)... Quide Azam university is the best institute for tht... i guess v have reserve seats there for balochistan...u can confirm tht.....

Plz do a market search before joing the institute... its easy nowadays.. with internet and computers

feel free to ask any question ok

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2005, 10:58:52 PM »
Salam Ahmed Brother.
 Thankx for giving me such Useful Information .Anyhow i know about LUMS coz in this time i am in Lahore studying in Forman Christian College Lahore but i Heared That IN LUMS only MBA can b do.So INSHALLAH i will be careful during my admission.this is my last year of FSc.