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How important is faith in today's world
« on: September 28, 2008, 11:07:36 PM »
Today we find ourselves in a world that is in a state of war. From small street groups to the big nations all are standing against each other, willing to destroy each other. And most of the people are dying for reasons not known to them. Confusion and anger is all around and no amount of wealth and education seems to be helping people to have peace in their lives.

Do you think faith (or Islam) can help in such circumstances…how?

Please share your views. Thanks.

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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 09:47:09 AM »
Braat :MEHER BALOCH:
salam o drout,

braat edaa baazen mardom mani view point a chey ikhtilaaf eyr kanant o man hamen irada kotag keh nou hech behec (discussion ) e saraa wati view point nadayan bale taee jost parcha keh mani jind e pegr e gooma nazzikii kant paemshkaa edaa taraa taee passo(juwaab) dayag loutan' bale ey dega baaskan' agan' mani gappa chey ikthiaaf hast aa ishiyaa ignore bekanant o geyshen jang jidal makanant. aahaanii eemnii e minnavaar bayan'

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braat "faith" yaa eemaan hama ahmen (important) chizzent keh daank insaane tooka nabii aa na wati fitrat a zaant kant, nah wati dunya e tooka aayag e maqsad a zaant kant, nah dunye e masahil an chey sarpad (aware) but kant o nah ey masahilan (problems) chey dar kapag e raaha zaant kant.

Islam e Faith tara goshiit wati peydakanouk e saraa eemaan byaar.
agan tao wati peda kanouk e saraa eemaan yaare goraa allama tao ey ham zaane keh hamahiya tara peyda kotag hama tara maut ham daat kant o aahiye siwa kas tara nah tara kosht kant na tara zindagii daat kant.

(Ey wahada insaan e masteren turs aahiye jaan e amaan ent o ey faith e nabiyaga chey insaan shap o rouch bimmnaakent)


Faith on your fate. (muqaddar )
wahad e insaan a ey emaan bii keh aahiye peda kanouka aa yal nadatag o aahiya muqaddar e tooka har kujaam chizz e nebeshta kotag (lekketag) o allama insaanan aahiye muqddar a chey rasit.

nou chey chizz muqaddar e bey johud a rasit o chey chizz johud a chey rasti ey zaanag insaan e waasta laazument.
Insaan a ey sar o souj mae peyda kanouka aasaamnii kitaabanii tooka daatag.
Parcha keh Quran yak kaamil kitaabent paemshkaa daank mardom aahiya nazaant  aa muqaddar e muamlayaa masahil e tooka kapit.

marouchii baazen insaan muqaddar e sara bawar nakanant. parcha keh aahanii cham nizar a jouhd a chey har kojaam chizz rast kant.
agan ey gapp raast butten goraa baheden aahaan wati maat o pet ham badal kotenatan'. ,
baheden aahan wati family root ham badal koten'.
baheden aahan wati peydahish o marg e wahad o jaga ham badal koten' 
baheden aahan wati gender, blood group o ey waRen bazen chizz  ham badal koten'
parchan keh ey durah hama chizzant keh insaan e muqaddar e tooka hama paem dayag buttagan insaan a hama paem rastagant.

muqaddar e hama chizz keh Quran e tooka goshag buttag keh tara taee johud o dua yaan'chey rasti aa ham muqaddar e tooka eyr ant.
roozig e johud insaan e dastaent bale aahiye rasag inna
bimmariyaanii ilaaj insaan e dastaent bale aahiye shifa inna
johud e kanag insaan e dastaent bale aahiye tooka kaamyabii yaa nakaamii rasag aahiye dasta naent.

insan ey babata hech nazaant bale raah wajah huda a kishk e paema Quran e tooka gishshentagt keh taee kirrah har doen raahant sharri o badii bale tara rasit hamencho keh wajah huda yaa Naseeb e tooka daatag.
nou taee dastaent keh tao haraam raah a chey wati lout a puraa kane agan nah Halaal.

wahad e insaan e kiraah "Faith on Fate" bi aa hejbar baden raah e sara rawag e khwahish nakant parcha keh aa ey zaant keh mana har paemaa wati baKht e maal o mata rasit goraa parcha man neiken raha yal bedayan o baden raah e sara watara janjaal a dor bedayan?


Firhoon a agan bezaanten keh yak nah yak rouch e mani salatanat goun mana taba o barbad bii aahiya hejbar wata khuda nagoshtaga.
dunya e hamencho hukmiranan yaa zaalim an' ey bezaanten keh maraa baKhta chey geysh rast nakant goraa aahan haraam o buraayii e raha chey wati lout zeyrag e johud nakotaga o marouchii dunya chush bazzag o waar nabuttaga.


Faith on judgment day
hama rouch keh insaan pada wati peyda kanouk e deyma rawt o wati kotagenanii hisaab a dant.

dunya e tooka hemencho buraayii insaan e tooka ey wahad suddi atkagan aa durahenanii main sawab  hamen aqeeda e nizour bayag ent.

insaan a shamoshtag keh mani marg a rand ham mana yak zind e hast o aa zind a mana ey zind e durah kaaranii hisaab deyagient.

yak orden chukkey agan ey zaant keh man harab e kaar kanan o mani maat mana jant o agan sharren kaar kanan mana shaabashii dant aa hejbar haraben kaar e tooka dast maan nadant.
bale hama roucha keh aahiye dil e tooka chey maat e zaar girag o maat e dasta laT warage turs halaas bii aa chuk har kojaam kaar e tooka dasta maan dayag a natursii.

"Faith on Judgment Day"  insaan a yak neymag e ey sukoon dant keh marchi agan mana mani sharren kaaraniii washii narastag parcha keh aa mani bakhta nabuttag bale aa rouch allama kaet wahad e wajah huda mana mani sabr o mehnat e ajr a dant.

insaan zolma chey peysar agan ey beycharti keh baanda mani saraa ham zolm bit kant agan ey donya e tooka zolm rasag a chey man pash kaptoun goraa allmaa aa dohmii donya a mana mani badii e hisaab rasit goraa aa allama wati dasta zolm kanag a chey daarit.

agan Ferhon a eemaan buttent keh qudrat mana ey donya e tooka ham ibrat e nishan kant aahiya hejbar khuda e daawa nakotag o wati rahiyat e saraa zolm nakotag.

ey donya e durah chizzan wati dyem eyr bekan o bechaar e marcouhii insaan e eemaan e nizourii aa insaan barbad kotag yal datagan' o angata mae insaan an ibrat neyst.
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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 01:44:49 PM »
Sister Zahida Raji – Peace be upon you,

Im really impressed with the way you write balouchi as I was able to understand all that you have said above. My way of speaking balouchi is one that you might hear in lyari and that also won’t be clear enough for many of you to understand.

Your above post about faith or imaan is excellent. I would like to carry your idea further in this post.

We can think of human heart like a very dark room the door of which is locked from inside. Our soul lives inside this dark room. The door of this room opens only when the soul declares that Allah is the Truth or Huq (and not just an imaginary concept created by some human minds). This is the beginning point of Imaan.

The light of guidance or noor-e-hidayat enters into the heart as soon as its door opens because Allah’s light or noor (which is also Rehmat) is always there in the whole universe, waiting at the door of each and every human heart.

The door of the heart opens with the strength of imaan and if our imaan is not strong enough then the door will open only a little and that much light will be able to enter the heart. The stronger the imaan, the wider the door opens and the greater the light enters inside the heart and Truth becomes clearer to the soul.

This means the soul is surrounded by things (in the heart) – things that are very hazardous and harmful (like Gharoor, Keena, Hasad, etc.) and things (like Insaniyat, Muhabbat, Darguzar, Insaf, etc.) that are very beneficial and helpful for the soul. The soul can have peace only when it sees the Truth clearly, or when it becomes able to avoid the harmful things and take the beneficial ones.

In other words, everything we say or do in this world is actually a reflection of our souls (or a reflection of the things that are going on in our hearts).

Can you imagine what will be the condition of a person who is stuck in a dark room and in that darkness he gets hit by one thing or another, very badly injuring himself on each step? Can he live in peace?

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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 02:17:10 PM »
Faith is incomplete with out good deeds ... I see self claim muslims alot but i hardly see a good human ...

Try to preach humanity too

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2008, 02:19:50 PM »
DO YOU THINK FAITH(OR ISLAM)CAN HELP IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES... HOW???
Mani braat Meher Baloche jost hamesh ath k man burza leketha...Bale paso sharen wade ah dhihag nabooth...
Banok Raji mani hayaala Imaan Mujmal ("I believe in Allah as He is with Him many names and qualities and I have accepted all His orders.") o Imaan Mufassale ("I believe in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, in the Day of Judgment, and that Fate good and bad is given by Allah, and the life after death." ) gapa kanaga enth...bale hesh nagoshte k faith ahnogen wadhe ad o janjjalaan hatham korth kanth ya hena.....
Mani hayaala faith(Islam) jang o jadhal, terrorism, destruction, confusion, anger o dhege sak baaz jedahani bonyaath enth...
Banok Raji ah doomsday ey gap o bahathe(fate) sara wathi yaqeene gap kothanth k hesh asth anth o heshaana kas hech wada hengo aango koth nakanth....Banok Raji thai gap mara wa kourchaath chagal dhi anth.. tho goshe ma hech makaneen o wathi bahathe sara yaqeen bekanen harch kaar shar beeth ey wad na botha na both kanth ... ahan both kanth hesh thai faith enth man gosht nakaeen....danke man o tho struggle makaneen chon both kanth mara bekaari ah moz beraseeth...Qaran man poora wanthag Quran ahnogen ad o jaanjaalhani hal koth nakanth... 1400 saal kohanen gap chon ahno kaar dhi anth o mara saro souj koth kananth...
Tho Banok Raji gosth k marouchii baazen insaan muqaddar e sara bawar nakanant. parcha keh aahanii cham nizar a jouhd a chey har kojaam chizz rast kant.
agan ey gapp raast butten goraa baheden aahaan wati maat o pet ham badal kotenatan'. ,
baheden aahan wati family root ham badal koten'.
baheden aahan wati peydahish o marg e wahad o jaga ham badal koten' 
baheden aahan wati gender, blood group o ey waRen bazen chizz  ham badal koten'
parchan keh ey durah hama chizzant keh insaan e muqaddar e tooka hama paem dayag buttagan insaan a hama paem rastagant....
Dear Raji , tho hama gapa kanga ey k ah dispute nahenth ,tho johdh o struggle ey mana ah dhege wad zoraga ey....lasthen cheez asth anth k ah Nature nemaga determine anth... Goda tho bogosh waja Hudha family root, blood group o gendera change koth kanth ??? Enssan angath dege ja ey sour kanth wathi chokani blood groupa change kanth.... marouchi scientist gender change kanga anth o genes charag bouaga enth o root b change  both kanth...marg  lazum asth ent o ah ja ah k pedhaak bohage amal beeth hodha ensaan pedhaak beeth...
thana Qurana hesh maan nesth k  hedha raaste rah b asth o radhe o galathen b.... dhge baaz din asth anth b ey gapa jananth...

Banok Raji. hesh Emaane pazori enth k marouchi dhunya thaba o barbadh enth.... agan man wathi ja ah shar hoon tho goda parcha mana wathi faithe thoka arag lote?????
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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2008, 02:31:26 PM »
Raast chon modernize kanag bi mana kase souj nadan ...
Insaane ehsaas o ayea Senses chon modernize kanag ban mana kase souj nadan ...
O zb principle a modernize kanage habar kan ... hahaha
Man yek Baluch o yek aaamen Musalmaan eya ... gesh islam baraha nazana ... baly islaam zend e hasoola goshet .. e nah k tara wati mobile expense cho kum kanagyant ... k zb goshet 1400 saal kowanen gapa ...

Che zb a wati sense modern kotaga? ya insaane pikr kanage takat ya ayea loot .. agan aa nok bit nakana o ama wada k marchi chen 1400 saal enna balken hazara saal pesr hasta .. goda principle chon badal bit kana?

Tao chon raast a noken shekaala hart kane?
Man islame kilaap naha baly balken mani wasta aa mardom anga borze k har mazab goma taluk bebite o insaane dard o ehsaasa sarpad bebi o fakt gapi enna hamli tora boro johd bekan ayea darde dawa bekan

Dr che musaalman nah ent baly pada ham balken yek aaamen musalmaan che gesh huda o huda eya sarpaden ...

Baluch harch wada hasta ama wahd wati dod o robedaga sarpada o ayani sara hamal kanaga aa na insaap bit nakana

Mardom ama k gwandoken gapani ham hayal dari bekan ...

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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2008, 02:52:13 PM »
Waja Lion of Desert Man goshthaga k Qaran man poora wanthag Quran ahnogen ad o jaanjaalhan hal koth nakanth... 1400 saal kohanen gap chon ahno kaar dhi anth o mara saro souj koth kananth..........

Waja Lion of Desert tho goshth k Man yek Baluch o yek aaamen Musalmaan eya ... """""gesh islam baraha nazana"""""' ... """"""''baly islaam zend e hasoola goshet """""""".. e nah k tara wati mobile expense cho kum kanagyant ... k zb goshet 1400 saal kowanen gapa .......

Baaren nu tho mana bogosh k Islam Zindhe kojaam principles haan gosheeth???

Tho Islame hesh gape sara yaqeen kane k thai kopagani sara dho fareshtha neshthag??
Man Raasthe modernize kanage baarwa koja gap jath, explain it???
Ahnogen ad o janjaalaan chon Islame hossol hal koth kananth???
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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2008, 03:08:05 PM »
Waja Lion of Desert Man goshthaga k Qaran man poora wanthag Quran ahnogen ad o jaanjaalhan hal koth nakanth... 1400 saal kohanen gap chon ahno kaar dhi anth o mara saro souj koth kananth..........

Waja Lion of Desert tho goshth k Man yek Baluch o yek aaamen Musalmaan eya ... """""gesh islam baraha nazana"""""' ... """"""''baly islaam zend e hasoola goshet """""""".. e nah k tara wati mobile expense cho kum kanagyant ... k zb goshet 1400 saal kowanen gapa .......

Baaren nu tho mana bogosh k Islam Zindhe kojaam principles haan gosheeth???

Tho Islame hesh gape sara yaqeen kane k thai kopagani sara dho fareshtha neshthag??
Man Raasthe modernize kanage baarwa koja gap jath, explain it???
Ahnogen ad o janjaalaan chon Islame hossol hal koth kananth???

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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2008, 03:11:40 PM »
Friedrich Nietzsche baz mazneen philosopher ey  o mani dil a dewan e doraeen mardom haia sharia zanan .......ha wathi kitab e taha ek qessa ey kar et k " ek roch e ek mard ey (the Madman) roch a cherag a rok kant o kaith chok e sara doraeeen mardom heran bant k ae mard a che ent k rocha cherag e rok e kotag ,cheze kand et o cheze preshan bet......guda hamishani taha ek e roth hame mard a just kant k waja tara che takleef ent k tara rocha cherag e gon  ent Roch e dema cherag e bestar che ent ?guda hama mard jawab dant k " i seek God ,I seek God .As many of those who do not believe in God were standing around , he provoked much laughter.............
"Whither is God " he cried , i shall tell u  we have killed Him .......Ma koshtag Kuda ma dorah hai e katel en , but how ? ma ae kara chon kot kaneen ,ae mazneen darya ma chon aerbortag ...........chamda cha ek movement e  start  bet k hai e nam aer kanag bet "Death of God Movement" k ha goshan faith(Belief in God ) is  irrelevent in Modern life.God once existed , but its death must now be accepted. Ae dora ae zamanga  mastaren masla ha goshan Kuda o hai e sujda o faith na ent  na ent balkeen  ek wahad e ey warag ent ..k baza naseeb nabeth.....Material ent.  ae wahda Kuda o Faith a cha gaishter mardoman warag e  zarorat ent o hame wrag e shohaz a marchegen zamanga kuda o faith e dumba kas na tach et.  both kan ae gap mardoma nawash bebant balay rast  hamaish ent .........o marchageen zamanaga hama k watara mastreen mazabprast goshant mazab e poshata wathi lap a shohaz a ant .................mani dil a ek shodekeen insanaia ek wahd e ey warag e deyag cha 10,0000 numaz sharter ent......
o domi mardom gon wathi karaan sak dazgatant, busy ant ............o gap agan baloch e kaith guda Baloch kadi ham mazabprast nabotag ant ..........cha bun o beha   
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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2008, 04:55:01 PM »
Waja Lion of Desert Man goshthaga k Qaran man poora wanthag Quran ahnogen ad o jaanjaalhan hal koth nakanth... 1400 saal kohanen gap chon ahno kaar dhi anth o mara saro souj koth kananth..........

Waja Lion of Desert tho goshth k Man yek Baluch o yek aaamen Musalmaan eya ... """""gesh islam baraha nazana"""""' ... """"""''baly islaam zend e hasoola goshet """""""".. e nah k tara wati mobile expense cho kum kanagyant ... k zb goshet 1400 saal kowanen gapa .......

Baaren nu tho mana bogosh k Islam Zindhe kojaam principles haan gosheeth???

Tho Islame hesh gape sara yaqeen kane k thai kopagani sara dho fareshtha neshthag??
Man Raasthe modernize kanage baarwa koja gap jath, explain it???
Ahnogen ad o janjaalaan chon Islame hossol hal koth kananth???

Gap e nah ent k anigen wahd chone o kowanen wahd chon bitag , gap eshen insaan e senses ani chona o pesr chon bitaga....

Che marchi en insaan asamaana zard gendagaya? ya pesr en ensana zard deetha? ya ayani respiration ya production system dege wad en pesr anche ya pesra dege wad bita...

Che tei cham ranga dege wad genda? ya tei senses charage,mehsoos kanage o insaane havas 21 century goma badal bita?

E doran chez insaan gomaya e badal bit nakana ... o ame senses o havas darag wasta chae tao goshe Baluchi dod o robedag ya Zend e hasool Islame shekala christianity shekala o dege mazhabani shekala dayag bita .....

Nazana tao che goshag gae k anigen wahda aa principle kar dant nakan ya dege cheze ya baren che ...

Insaan yek techniqal zamanaga zaroor atka baly ensaan e havas,loot o senses ama wada kar kanagaya k pesr kanaga bitaga and to control these senses and lust principles are thought to man-kind in shape of religion

I am Baluch and Muslim but donot think me i am religious person ... yes i believe there is a single Allah .. God who is owner of every thing because it seems like that ...

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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2008, 05:13:24 PM »
Mani braatan shuma wati khayalat eda pesh kutan, man shumae baaz mennat waran.

I thank you all for sharing your points of views. It is nice to see very different views on the subject of faith. I hope to see more.

So being baloch doesn’t mean that we all share the same idea about many things, including faith. Every individual has his own reasons to follow what he sees best for him or her. The only thing is that we should be able to exchange our views in a way that does not get us into some kind of conflict, which would be very unfortunate for a Nation like us which needs unity.

Brother Lion-of-desert: I agree with you that there is no use of Imaan if we are not good humans first. If Islam does not bring a good human being out of a person, then that is not Islam even if the person claims to be a muslim. A good non-muslim who helps human beings is much better than the one who claims to be a muslim but makes the life of fellow human beings miserable.

Brother ZB Baloch: “Mani hayaala faith(Islam) jang o jadhal, terrorism, destruction, confusion, anger o dhege sak baaz jedahani bonyaath enth...”

This could be your personal opinion. But this is as baseless as calling baloch freedom fighters terrorists or miscreants.

How one can have peace in life, this is the question. You can bring your answers from any source if you are not able to find them in the Quraan. All we want is to help each other find solutions no matter where we find them. We are not here to force each other to believe or follow what we think is right. Just share. That’s it.

Brother Qasum Faraz  : That’s an interesting story. People can derive satisfaction from whatever they feel comfortable with.
“ae wahda Kuda o Faith a cha gaishter mardoman warag e  zarorat ent o hame wrag e shohaz a marchegen zamanga kuda o faith e dumba kas na tach et.  both kan ae gap mardoma nawash bebant balay rast  hamaish ent..”

You are right… an empty stomach might sometimes be more concerned about Naan rather than Imaan. Problem is not with those who are hungry for food, but with those who are hungry for power.

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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2008, 05:44:18 PM »
Quran ahnogen ad o jaanjaalhan hal koth nakanth... 1400 saal kohanen gap chon ahno kaar dhi anth o mara saro souj koth kananth..........

braat laazum naent keh ma harchey buwaane aahiya pah sharri sarpad ham bebaen' insaan e zehn e wushat hamenchoken hamencho keh aahiye souch e burzient. Quran e sarpad bayag a aHadeec ham pah sharri wanag kapant. o aahaadees e zoban o mizaaj sarpad buwaag e waasta aalimanii shaagirdii ham zeyrag kapit.

man kirrah ham mazhabii knowledge neyst bale incho allama zaanan keh
1400 saal peysar e Quran a Hazrat Loot alai-Islma e rahiyat e burayii o aa burayii e sawab a aahanii sara  azaab e babata kishken gapp jatag. ey burayii 1400 saal peysar wa nabuttag bale marouchii homosexuality e wabaa Europe a chey chest but o Pakistan a ham sar buttag nateejah Qudratii afaat o  wabahii imraaz  chap o chaagirdaa insaani jaan o maal e nuqsaan dayagaen.

Firhoon e khudayii daawaa, aahiye zolm e azeem o randaa aahiye anjaam maraa Quran e tooka raset...
chizzey saal peysar Russia a ham Khudayi e daw kanouk peyda buttagan  nou tao wat bechaar Roos ke aa zamanag e super power buttag aa choun prosht proush but?

Quran e tooka 1400 saal peysar taee property e hisaab kitaab gishenag buttagan'. insaani fitrat e dura buraayii o aa burayiyaan chey dar kapag e durah raah hamen Quraan e tooka hast.

Quran e tooka 1400 saal peysar insaan a ilm e t^ib (MEDICAL Science) e babta goshag buttag marchi ishiye saraa kaar buwagaent.

Quran e tookaa Fitra, Zakaat, Khairaat o  Sadqaat e babata goshag buttag agan ey hamen paema marouchigen wahad a ham daarag butten goraa Hazrat Umar Farooq e ad e paema marchii ham har kas zakaat dayouk buttaga kas zakaat e mustahiq pash nakaptaga.

Quran e tooka 1400 saal peysar goshag buttag keh Momin a munafiq o mushrika a chey tursag loutit.
marchii mosulmanan Munafiq o Mushrik wati doust kotagan' pameshkaa Musolmaan molk barabadant.

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2008, 11:20:11 PM »
bismillah

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i hope u all are well firstly ...

i would like to share my view point too  ....


we as human beings have a habit of
thinking what to reply while reading and that (according to me ) narrows the mind
we try to OPPOSE b4 even trying to understan wat the person means or says...
anyways....this needs another discussion ....


so


FAITH...
i feel that FAITH is necessary in every aspect of life ....

it is necessary to have FAITH in urself ...
bcoz i feel without that ... u r no where to stand

to have faith in HUMANITY (as bro lion of desert said)
coz without that ...u r incomplete again...HUMANITY is something that is common for all...all relegions..all castes ...all genders....so it is necessary to have faith in HUMANITY for unity and peace....



and when we speak of faith IN ISLAM....
it includes
~faith in the oneness of GOD
~faith in ur self
~faith in humanity
~faith in goodness
and much more... the subheadings of FAITH IN ISLAM will include all the aspects of life....

and i see that when WE try to compress the meaning of faith in just ONE THING...it ends up being wrong ...((if i say faith is FAITH IN ALLAH...as a muslim I KNOW that it includes all the meaninging of faith in alll aspects of life but when a diesbeleiver sees FAITH IN ALLAH... he would probably come up saying ...it is nt right bcoz humanity comes b4 or personal faith or modernisation is more imp .... ))
and i feel we all look at SAME THINGS in DIFFEREnT WAYS... and thats wat makes the difference ...


since i am a muslim by NATURE ( not just birth )
i beleive in oneness of God and his messenger and..and...and...

HAVING FAITH IN FATE (muqaddir if im nt wrong )
some ppl may think that ...
anything that happens to me is already written and so ..i can jsut be who i am BCOZ IT is written for me....i can continue doing sins ( as it is my fate )


but that is nt the ISLAMIC explanation of having FAITH IN muqader
and we have many proves from the HOLY QURAN ..

like...

IN SURAT ..al najm ( THE STAR)
VERSE NO : 39-41 or 42
and that MAN  has only that for which HE MAKES EFFORT.AND THAT HIS EFFORT WILL BE SEEN , AND AFTERWARD HE WILL BE REPAID FOR IT WITH FULLEST PAYMENT


so we see that watever u seek is the result....this is related to LAW OF ATTRACTION explained in the book ** THE SECRET ** which is released not far back but the QURAN HAD IT 1400 YEARS BACK ....and similarly we see many other things that many relegions (including islam,buddhism , christanity,etc ) EXPLAINED FAR back ...but it is proved by science just now

and we as MUSLIMS are to twakul on ALLAH ...that is DO WAT IS ON US..IN THE RIGHT WAY AND LEAVE THE REST TO ALLAH 4 HE KNOWS OUR GOOD BETTER THAN US

but many ppl conclude the meaning of tawaakul on allah as faith.. ( WHICH ALLAH FORBIDS...)
that is to do wrong or not do anything and say THATS WATS WRITTEN FOR ME...

the topic will need my life to explain though i know not much ...
so i hereby stop ...

and hope that no one will take at heart anything i say coz I RESPECT ALL VIEWS
just as the prophet MOHAMMED did
note:respecting is nt necessarily beleiving


when the disbeleivers went to prophet MOHAMMED for discussing with him..HE RESPECTED THEM AND WAITED TILL THEY FINISHED TALKING  (ff)with the highest ranks of respect...

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ur sister
NAZGOL ASKANI (ff)



my silence does not mean that im not aware of what goes on around me
but what goes on around me...deserves not being spoken about


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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2008, 07:18:59 PM »
Sister Zahida Raji – Peace be upon you,

Im really impressed with the way you write balouchi as I was able to understand all that you have said above. My way of speaking balouchi is one that you might hear in lyari and that also won’t be clear enough for many of you to understand.

Your above post about faith or imaan is excellent.

Jazakallah o min Khair dear brother.



Can you imagine what will be the condition of a person who is stuck in a dark room and in that darkness he gets hit by one thing or another, very badly injuring himself on each step? Can he live in peace?

very true brother he cannot live in peace.

May Allah(swt) show us a right path to reach him (Aameen)
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Re: How important is faith in today's world
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2008, 08:10:33 PM »
In my view Faith is the trust which a person puts in things that he/she believes will save him/her from harms and will guarantee his/her safety. Now depending on each individual's own understanding of things, faith can be put in anything that one wants to trust whether it is a living thing, non-living thing, a concept, an idea or whatever in the world.

So far as the question of brother Meher is concerned, I think he is specifically referring to the Islamic concept of Faith which certainly means having one's trust in Allah, the Creator, and in His commands.

Those who can read and understand the message of the Qur'an, the Book of Guidance from the Creator, know that the only way to aquire true peace in this world and in the hereafter is to understand his own nature or Fitrat, which is nothing but Humanity. And humanity is not in things which the human heart might want to run after, being tempted by pleasures and glamours of this world, but it is in the things which the Creator has designed in the form of principles, collectively known as Islam or Peace.

Man will have peace only when he understands his true nature and stops going against it as it destroys his peace. And what is man's true nature, only his Creator can tell that. It is more IMPORTANT to understand and follow the principles that can bring him peace by bringing him closer to his true nature (or humanity) rather than trying to act as a follower of a certain idealogy or faith.

Best regards,

Abdullah