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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2009, 12:35:34 PM »
Herana neshtagan... posta wanagahan... wad waden gap, wad waden kirdar ani wahond wati hayala darshan kanagahant..
Bare kase Baloch shahir a her jant baren Kase dge gape jant....
Hao marochi e Labz k tao gwashe "BALOCH" sak nezor ent, saap(CLEAR) nah ent......
Goda har kas amencho pazor ent k wati hesaba harch waden gape bejant, Nazanok ham mayareeg nahant aa ham kayant anchen gapa jana k raasti goma ech taloke nadarant...
Hao chekar bazzag, war o bebasant e labz "BALOCH" k wati haqiqata ham gwasht nakant o mahlook wat sara cho pazor ent o gap janag ent ....
Kahe gwashi Balochi shahiri bemaqsad ent? Balochi shahiri wa zende doraen ranga padar kant, zend o qudrate nazaraha gwashit, zende haqiqata sabak dant... yeke k agan echbar Balochi shahiri nawantag, sarpad nabotag goda baed nah ent e wad begwashet ... hao marochi balochi saaz o zemel taha jal borzi hast , ancho k ida gap janok ani gapani taha wati nazanage taha gapayant
Baly ama saaz o zemel e sharen tarbyat k ayea state e policy makers capital o dge resources provide kana nabotag, mahlook wat sara wati potential sara padatkag o dema bortagesh ... marochi baazen balochi sites banned kanag botaga ayea taha gair syasi ama k saqapati,adabi o samaji ent ama ham banned kanag botaga e gape andaza goda shar bejene k aa state shomera wati adab anche , saqapat anche chekar door kanag lotet....

Awal mah wata bezane k mah che hada zan ent ayea pad e gapa bejene washteren parcha k ama labz sara behs bowagaent "BALOCH" aa zindan taha ent, war ent , bazzag ent, aa wat gwasht nakant k aa kaent bas johd kanag ent wati zanjeera proshage

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2009, 02:08:38 PM »
 [dousten_baaskan]
 salam-o-drout

ey sarhaal gendag a rand hamen maarag buwagaen keh mae chizzey baask nalouTant keh Diwwan e tooka eemnii bibi o aa durah sarhaalan hamen waR haraab kananant.

Ey diwwan e objective Baloch, Balochi o Balochistan e deyma baragent.
Baloch e eyr janag, Baloch a bad beyakaar kanag o Balochanii nizouriyaanii saraa tamaasha kanag e haq ma ey diwwan e tooka kasa nadaen.

harkasa ey chizzey hubb o wahag hast net e paanat mazanent buruwant goun dushminaan' hambrah daari bekanant.

balushyno1 as per your all previous posts, tai objective agan Balochanii platform e saraa Balochanii eyr janag o bad beykaar kanagent goRaa diwwan e saraa tara aayag e zaloorat neyst.

Lion-Of-Desert jazbaati buwag hamok issue e ilaaj naent.
omaiten shoma ham as a senior baask wati zimmevaariye hayaal daariyaa kane o Diwwan e eemni aa barjaa daarag e johud kane.

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2009, 07:16:57 PM »
shir , shair , sharab o goshindah......
        qazi gosheet sharab harkasi wasta na ent ,,shair wata ham hame chagerd mardome sarpad beet anchoo keh man tao wata hame chagerde bahre zaneen , goshidah bass shaire shiran gosheet o shair gosheet man harchi gendan o maran man nebishtah kana pada man wata hama shir e taha wata ham dar bigejeen keh shairah goshat , pada wade keh ma qazi e ae shirah eshkonan ,,,heer rech sharaban taas e taha ,yak aas e bekan rok aas e taha ,,,sharab ham aas e keh socheet o pelosheet ,,,baly shair ada gosheet keh man agan hame ass e taha sotkagan guda tao sabak e bozor wata masoch gon pada ma wat nindeen hame habara gosheen keh ae chez mara mutaser kant o mahe zahag ham hame kerda kan ant ,,baly wahde qazi pada ae shira gosheet ,,marchigeen ae wanindah keh mae bandate omeetan ,jinda wati tawan dant jail gon sharaba ,,,,,guda ma ada ae shire sara parcha mutaser nabeeen ,,,,galib e ham bazeen sharabi shir ast,ant gagjeet sing gon washeen dunnan galib e shiran gosheet o galib e jind ham sharabi e botha o ma baloch ham galib a wanan o goshdaran ,,baly galib e sharabi shirani sara india e mardom ae nagoshan keh galib a sharab warta shaire botha ,baly ma wahde qazi a wanan guda ma ae sajaheen zemahwaria hamaye sara ladeen keh aa wat hame aas maktbyan che yake gon ,,guda ma wata ham malam bekan,een gon keh yak logya petye zemahwari che bant yak maktabya ostaad eye zemahwari che bant ae gappa ma kadi janga tayaar naheen ya yak ledareye zemahwari che bot kan ant ,,,,ma ae nemaga kadi najeditag ,,mullhan mansor allaj ham pahoa dratk baly che both ada kassa regzaran reek e kalat nabastag baly wahde shaire jedeet guda aa hayale dunyaea sar beet o aaye dil reeky kalatani taha wab beet ,,,muneer gosheet mardom keh shair jod beet guda ganok maneet ,,ganok chonya harks bot kant o harpemeen ganok ast hamehsya keh man tao jonon gosheen baly shaire ganoke degah range peshdareet non ma bechareen keh hame hanokeen jinn keh shaira pereen aa hame shairi ent pada shaire pa harkas o nakasa na ent ,,pada mardom wasara hon ganok both nakant pada zafar ali zafar gosheet ,,,zafar ada degah ach katt dast nakapt mara ,,hame mae dil keh boloteet sharab arzan ent baly pa zafar e wasta nakeh pa harkasa ada zafar wata gon wata mukatib ent keh aa gon choneen dard o rajan gon dochaar ent ae sharab e jind taheer nadant balkeen dardan gesh kant ada balkeen shiar wati dardan gesh kanag loteet bare bare baniaadame sara ancheen nobat kait keh aa wata trawaln wat kodeneet hamesh trwalani kodenaga gon bare bare taheer ham raseet ,,,pame wasta shay mureeda wata 77 dag perdasht wati jan e band o boge aazag kot,ant keh hani e judai dard gesh bebant keh non pa mana bageer keh hani e dardan degah ach nest ,,,,ya samo e tokali bibeet kochaleen bang o sammi zaeerani zarhan che peramosh bot makant ....
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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2009, 03:54:09 AM »
sister zahida ...thnk u adda for ur kind administrative ways :)

brother LOD.... i respect u a lot and ur views too as ur my elder brother
its the first time dat our views are slightly variable ...(anyhow....its just a discussion   :) )



First of all I request that non of us take this discussion personally…..
Coz everyone has a view and every one has the right to express it
Though our approaches are different ..our aim is same….




Secondly
I am repeatedly saying that my intensions are not to accuse any of the balochi songs or singers …but to bring up some of the generally un-noticed faults in the songs so that they could be corrected with the help of  INCREASE  IN  DEMAND  OF POSITIVE SONGS.

 


LYRICS  OF  POPULAR  BALOCHI  SONGS



Our country cant gain success unless it travels through each hardship step by step…

In no way it is possible that ..one fine day …we take a trumpet and say to the people that come rage a war against who have made u suffer and gain success…
Everything need to go though the process of achievement …even if one step is missed… the success mite be achieved but still with cuts that can break it again …


Along the process of this journey I saw that A CHANGE IN media  ((the poplar balochi SONGS…their lyrics)) IS IMPORTANT



And I say this not from my own pocket….but from great leaders who have earlier achieved what we are in way to achieve….



GANDHI JI :
When he went out to achieve his aim ….
He first slowly …slowly went to each and every place and put the ideas in their heads….
He brought a CHANGE IN THE WAYS OF SINGERS …. He was able to transform the thoughts of singers to positive thoughts that would help the nation to go
ahead…(not only in terms of  revolution but the general characters of individual)

And this he did because  he knew that to affect ppl and to make them think POSITIVELYand have sensible thoughts rather than those thoughts of misery and licker and other bad stuff) …. A change in media (especially the lyrics) was important because music had the power to take a role in shaping puplic thoughts

Even when in france the thoughts of liberty were first up coming….
They had brought change in media coz it had power to shape puplic views…


So its true that ppl's personal choice can make them think sensibly..but majority of the puplic are choiceless …we can say that  more or less puplic have the choice that is POPULAR……




Its true that me ( being an individual of baloch public) like many other balochs ….
I have very limited access to balochi poetry and knowledge about baloch past …
And that’s how majority of  baloch are… most of the baloch have access to the POPULAR SONGs and not the other valuable poetry that might have been known to few….




So all I intended was the upliftment of the VALUABLE   THOUGHTS of baloch rather than those senseless songs……..


And as for the already existing valuable thought in poetry ….we wish that these poetry are made up into songs because songs are more easily acceptable and accessible to majority of the baloch puplic….


I hope im more clear…
(coz im already dieing to clear out my point …… lol )

ur immature younger sister
nazgol askani



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but what goes on around me...deserves not being spoken about


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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2009, 02:47:17 PM »
A  very controversial topic has commenced and most probably ended as well.Anyhow after reading the different posts i personally do agree with most of them like Gwaduri,Sir Lion of Desert,Maharang Askani etc.As far as the question, why such worthless music or songs are being flourished, is concerned ,it is simple ,that our youth is deeply immersed into such type of music which is hiking the demand of such music and ultimately smashing the music culture to the smithereens one way or the other.This scenario would definitely discourage the good poets and the singers as well.And even sometimes good poets and singers are compelled to follow suit in this situation , after all every one has to meet his ends.Another question which is mind boggling that why most of the people are used to such music ,the answer could be, they are following all others who feel proud listening to such music or lacking sense or not yet achieved the maturity or backwardness or saturation of such music only or lack of interest or lack of understanding the great poets like Sayyad ,Qazi etc. and many other reasons could verily justify the boost up of this kind of music .But one thing is clear that everyone has his own personal musical interest , so one cannot coerce someone to listen to good music .And one thing i must ensure here that it is also not like this that there is lack of good poets and singers ,on the contrary there are dozens of good singers as well as poets but unfortunately they are not focused and paid heed.

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2009, 02:53:07 PM »
i don thin so.......................
bt ya.........todays common poet made it peace ov cake to  bring balochi songs it a cross road...............
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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2009, 11:23:40 PM »
thnk u for ur views first of all ...










Quote from: Asad_Dazini on June 26, 2009, 09:04:29 PM




perfect serf allah a zaat en,,, e ganaya department chun bit perfect,,,

insan ama cheza zarorata mehsos kant ama a shohaaz o amaea loot a kant,,,

mardom k reason o meaning a shohaz a ganaye gosh dare gora a ama pam en ganae gosh bedaar e k aea satisfy bakant o aea maane daat baka,,

e gana k borza mentiona ,,hana hana hana en ya e daga eshane zarorat aarosea sara bit kant wahde eke salaonk e ya banoor a benazene aam wahda eshane goshdarag hum wash nalagit







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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2009, 11:26:09 PM »
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ey sarhaal gendag a rand hamen maarag buwagaen keh mae chizzey baask nalouTant keh Diwwan e tooka eemnii bibi o aa durah sarhaalan hamen waR haraab kananant.

Ey diwwan e objective Baloch, Balochi o Balochistan e deyma baragent.
Baloch e eyr janag, Baloch a bad beyakaar kanag o Balochanii nizouriyaanii saraa tamaasha kanag e haq ma ey diwwan e tooka kasa nadaen.

harkasa ey chizzey hubb o wahag hast net e paanat mazanent buruwant goun dushminaan' hambrah daari bekanant.

balushyno1 as per your all previous posts, tai objective agan Balochanii platform e saraa Balochanii eyr janag o bad beykaar kanagent goRaa diwwan e saraa tara aayag e zaloorat neyst.

Lion-Of-Desert jazbaati buwag hamok issue e ilaaj naent.
omaiten shoma ham as a senior baask wati zimmevaariye hayaal daariyaa kane o Diwwan e eemni aa barjaa daarag e johud kane.

goun durah Baaskan' dazbandient keh Baask e saraa POST o comments an' consider bekane. kas kasi sara personal attack makant.
daramad wa randa kaet edaa braat goun braat a jang jedalent.


ma ey sarhaal e saraa aa durah comments keh out of contexts an' yak do rouch e tooka drustan delete kanan'.

Nazgol you can continue with your post.

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2009, 02:09:04 AM »
Salam again!


Finally, the atmosphere is peaceful now!  [agree]

thats good.

Miss Askani deserves applause for compelling us to think and comment on whatever ways we were able to perceive and understand from the posts our fellow Baasks posted.

This discussion may continue for years if Admins don't find it as controversial or Baasks contributed responsibly.

But we want people to listen to this and do the improvements.
I know many poets are net savvy today.
but what the singers?
do they know what the heck is internet???
I think they must know how this world looks like and hence they can share their stories.
this may open new ways for them and they might go international this way.
In my opinion Our slavery has nothing to do with the situations in the music in the sense how music are composed and what poets write. its actually a responsibility issue.


Please correct me if i am going "out of track"

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2009, 05:04:53 AM »
BALOUCHI IS A VERY NICE LAUNGUGE SO PLEASE DONT U MISUSE IT. . .
NO ONE CAN RULE US WE RULE OUR SELVES

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2009, 04:07:37 AM »
Wah Pakistani Tao Na Tai Soot  bigsmile

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2009, 02:39:05 AM »
is it reallly soooo that Balochi songs are meaningless or we actually cant understand Balochi?
Or
We Never tried to learn Balochi???

answer this question to yourself & Get the answer of ur this question......


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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2009, 03:26:05 PM »
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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2009, 04:41:24 PM »
Well, in reality poetry is difficult than common language. Most Baluchi songs are difficult to understand, consequently boring. But an other solid reality is most of the Baluchi songs are in Mekrani Baluchi, causing more problem for us to grsap the meaning of what is being uttered out, since I speak an other version of Baluchi.

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Re: Balochi songs .....y so meaningless ???
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2009, 11:12:30 AM »
I'd go with balushyno1 and DigitalWalk in this regard that the vocals are alright but the music are all the same and omani music are way better. Classic music e domba tachaga ma hech deema naraptagi'. I mean classic is the best but we should also pay attention to new generation of music @journey : Don't look at the politics side I mean look at the paki songs many songs have no meaning in vocals but still people like them bcz of their music. < I mean no disrespect. We shouldn't forget the classical instead many countries have that kind of music which is called classical + rock which means they use new instruments with the classical ones why can't we??. And its not a sin to use musical instruments of other cultures with your own vocals look at indian industry they use persian songs like Boro Boro in Bluffmaster. English, French everything they copy everyone and give credit to only a few I'm not talking that our industry should copy music I mean we should also go beyond the classical instruments and add some flavour to our music this is the only way to attract people. Btw I also like Basit and Golbang both are my favourite.
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